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Drew Weissman, speaking at a podium.

Drew Weissman talks about mRNA technologies during the 2022 Harrington Lecture at Spring Clinical Day on June 4 at the Jacobs School. Photo: Joe Casio

By DIRK HOFFMAN

headshot of Drew Weissman.

The scientist, who with a collaborator invented and developed the messenger RNA (mRNA) technology that is the basis for Pfizer-BioNTech’s and Moderna’s COVID-19 vaccines, embodies the textbook definition of perseverance.

Drew Weissman, Roberts Family Professor in vaccine research at the Perelman School of Medicine at the University of Pennsylvania, spoke about his efforts to advance RNA technologies for use in vaccines during Spring Clinical Day at the Jacobs School of Medicine and Biomedical Science’s 175th anniversary celebration June 4.

Weissman was the keynote speaker for the Harrington Lecture and his talk, “Collaboration That Caught Fire: Decades of Research that Led to SARS-Cov-2 Vaccines,” detailed the arduous tasks he undertook in collaboration with Katalin Karikó, adjunct professor of neurosurgery at Penn and a senior vice president at BioNTech.

Weissman and Karikó have been studying RNA for use in vaccines for more than 15 years and have dreamed about the seemingly endless possibilities for treating diseases with custom-made mRNA. But for many of the early years, they did so in complete obscurity and without any funding.

Weissman and Karikó are the recipients of the 2021 Lasker-DeBakey Clinical Medical Research Award, which often precedes a Nobel Prize, and the 2022 Breakthrough Prize in Life Sciences, the world’s largest science prize, among many other international awards.

“The story of how Dr. Weissman and his collaborators maintained their focus and determination against formidable trials and tribulations is truly inspirational,” said Allison Brashear, vice president for health sciences and dean of the Jacobs School.

More than 15 years ago, Weissman and Karikó found a way to modify mRNA and later developed a delivery technique to package the mRNA in fat droplets called lipid nanoparticles (LNPs), Brashear noted in her introduction of Weissman.

Researchers need to be ‘curious and creative’

Allison Brashear and Drew Weissman.

Jacobs School Dean Allison Brashear and Drew Weissman. Photo: Joe Casio

Weissman said he was “highly honored” to be asked to deliver the Harrington Lecture and be a part of the school’s 175th anniversary celebration.

“Medical schools are the foundation of basic science research in our country, so I am here to support all of basic science research,” he said.

Weissman said he is often asked what the most important attributes of a researcher are.

“My response is always that there is not a particular personality. You do not have to be an introvert. You do not have to be a particular type of person to be a researcher,” he said. “But I do believe that you have to be curious and you have to be creative. And you need a level of intelligence to be able to take the creativity and develop new things and figure out how to turn those into true therapeutics.”

Somewhat unexpectedly, Weissman also likened research to the arcade game of “whack-a-mole.”

“You’re bright enough and you are creative. What happens then is new ideas keep popping into your mind,” he said. “And the question is, what do you do with these new ideas? How do you decide which ideas are good and deserve to be followed up on? Science is a game of whack-a-mole. It’s finding the right project and hitting it.”

A panel of faculty experts joins Drew Weissman (center) on stage for a Q&A session. From left are Jonathan F. Lovell, Jennifer A. Surtees, Gabriela K. Popescu and Thomas A. Russo.

A panel of faculty experts joins Drew Weissman (center) on stage for a Q&A session. From left are Jonathan F. Lovell, Jennifer A. Surtees, Gabriela K. Popescu and Thomas A. Russo. Photo: Joe Casio

Collaboration, perseverance keys to success

Weissman went on to lay out the basic timeline on mRNA therapeutics.

“I always laugh because when I talk to lay audiences, I always hear comments like ‘oh, I am afraid of this vaccine because it was invented in 10 months.’ And I have to say ‘well, that is not exactly true.’ mRNA was discovered in 1961. The first time it was injected into an animal was 1990.”

Weissman said what followed was a lot of collaborative research efforts, including those of his with Karikó, which he said started around 1998.

“It wasn’t a simple step. It wasn’t somebody found RNA, they stuck it into an animal, made a vaccine and they were done,” he said. “It was hundreds and hundreds of people and thousands of experiments that people did together to develop mRNA therapeutics.”

Weissman said he first started working with Karikó after they met at a copy machine.

“Back in those days, the only way you could read a journal article was to photocopy the journal,” he said. “And we both read a lot and we both fought over the copy machine so we started talking.”

He said they soon started collaborating on their research, but did not receive any grant funding until 2007 — almost 10 years of work without any funding.

“Katie and I would work side-by-side in the lab. We did not have any technicians or postdocs helping us do this,” Weissman said. “Katie would make the RNA and I would add it to cells or give it to mice. We would sit and discuss the results.”

It was not until 2019 and 2020 that grants started to come a lot easier, he noted.

“What that brings up is perseverance and my favorite quote from Winston Churchill about perseverance: ‘If you’re going through hell, keep going.’”

Weissman said the duo’s “moment of success” occurred when the first Phase III clinical trials came out for mRNA vaccines and they showed nearly 95% efficacy and incredible safety.

“This was our shining moment, that Katie and I were suddenly recognized for what we had spent 25 years working on,” he said.

Enormous potential for mRNA therapeutics

Weissman said he wanted to focus on the future because that is what interests him the most.

“Talking about the past is great, but I don’t have a great memory, so I am always forgetting the past,” he said. “But I am interested in the future. What the mRNA therapeutic landscape is useful for is that it is a platform, which means that it has an enormous number of potential uses.

“We’re developing vaccines for some of the more critical diseases in the world, where previous vaccines have failed: things like malaria, hepatitis C, HIV and many others,” Weissman said.

“But that’s not all that you can do with an RNA vaccine. We are developing vaccines for food and environmental allergens — for things like peanuts, dust mites and tree pollen.”

Weissman said therapeutics are also being developed for autoimmune diseases and cancers.

He said he is especially interested in mRNA therapeutics, which is the delivering of a protein to a cell of interest.

“The big difference is that with RNA you can replace intracellular proteins, so these are proteins inside the cell — things like the CFTR gene, which is the defective gene in cystic fibrosis, and any other genetic deficiencies. We can deliver gene-editing technology to fix broken genes,” Weissman said.

“I’ve talked about all the vaccines we are developing, but I think mRNA therapeutics in the future is going to be even wider and have many more diseases that it can treat.”

For the final slide in his presentation, Weissman said he needed to thank all of the people in his lab and all of the people in the labs he has collaborated with, so it included a list of the names of dozens of researchers who have worked on mRNA technologies.

“Katie and I get a lot of awards for this, but we’re not the only people involved. There were many more researchers, both before and after us.”

Following the lecture, a panel of Jacobs School faculty experts joined Weissman on stage for some follow-up questions. Panelists were Jonathan F. Lovell, SUNY Empire Innovation associate professor of biomedical engineering; Gabriela K. Popescu, professor of biochemistry; Thomas A. Russo, SUNY Distinguished Professor of Medicine and chief of the Division of Infectious Diseases; and Jennifer A. Surtees, associate professor of biochemistry.



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